Poe’s US SSN stolen from dead person

Poe’s US SSN stolen from dead person

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02hea06Written by Ninez Cacho-Olivares Wednesday, 02 March 2016 00:00

GRACE HAS 2 SSNs; DECEPTION PATTERN BARED

Sen. Grace Poe has been found to have committed a US federal felony as documents show that the lady senator who is running for the presidency in May 2016 has committed identity theft in the United States, which  she had obtained and used, evidently illegally, a US Social Security SS number (SSN) from a dead person, but using her name, Grace Poe Llamanzares.

In the US, a person can only have one SSN, otherwise having more than one SSN becomes a crime of identity fraud and identity theft. This is a federal crime in the United States and Canada. Grace Poe Llamanzares has been listed as having  two SSNs, one in her name , with SSN 005-03-1988, first issued as stated in the document, in 1934-1951 in ME. This SSN has been recorded as belonging to a deceased person, according to the documents obtained by The Tribune.

Llamanzares was not even born at the time the US issued this SS number to a now deceased person. Poe was  born on September 1968. Nor was she even married to Niel Llamanzares, having married him in 2001.
But Poe has another SSN 538-25-2008 also in the name of Grace Poe Llamanzares, issued in 1992. This is probably her real SSN.

She was married toTeodoro Llamanzares in 1991.

The Tribune asked a source, a Filipino who lives abroad, how one could get an SSN in the US and still have two SS numbers in her name. We also asked him how can a Filipino citizen living in the United States obtain an SSN that does not correspond to one’s age.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, the source replied that in Filipino communities, where those who entered the US without the necessary papers, and has to find employment, some enterprising Filipinos and even foreigners, or to purchase a house, for a fee, get an SSN from a deceased person, which Poe apparently did before 1997.
“There are many Filipinos and even other foreigners, who are TNTs in the US who would pay to have an illegally obtained SSN, because of their illegal immigrant status. Also, they can’t get good and decent jobs without an SSN,” the Filipino source told The Tribune.

The source, who lived in the US for some 10 years, is now a naturalized American. But he says, “these things are done in Filipino communities.

Poe, asked during the first presidential debate on her inexperience in government, replied: “It is true I have little experience in government, but I can say that I have no experience  in stealing, lying or cheating.”
It appears she did steal, lie and cheat, as documents obtained by The Tribune yesterday showed, her having committed identity theft and/or identity fraud, which is punishable with a prison term.
It is a federal felony committed when one engages in identity theft and identity fraud.

Poe used dead man’s SSN 3 times

An Internet search done on US Social Security Number records showed that a Grace Poe Llamanzares used the Social Security No. 005-03-1988, which belongs to a dead person  three times:  In 1999 and once in 2006.
The records showed that it was first reported used for 2914 Post Office Box in Fairfax county in Merrifield, Virginia 22116-2914 on February 2, 1999; then at 129 Kingsley Rd SW, Vienna, Virginia in Fairfax country on June 1, 1999 and at 12021 Sunset Hills Rd Reston, Virginia on September 1, 1999.

It was last used at 42931 Shelbourne SQ, Chantilly, Virginia in Loudon county on May 1, 2006.
From the US Justice Department Web site, the following was found on identity theft as a crime.
“The short answer is that identity theft is a crime. Identity theft and identity fraud are terms used to refer to all types of crime in which someone wrongfully obtains and uses another person’s personal data in some way that involves fraud or deception, typically for economic gain.

“These Web pages are intended to explain why you need to take precautions to protect yourself from identity theft. Unlike your fingerprints, which are unique to you and cannot be given to someone else for their use, your personal data  especially your Social Security number, your bank account or credit card number, your telephone calling card number, and other valuable identifying data  can be used, if they fall into the wrong hands, to personally profit at your expense. In the United States and Canada, for example, many people have reported that unauthorized persons have taken funds out of their bank or financial accounts, or, in the worst cases, taken over their identities altogether, running up vast debts and committing crimes while using the victims’s names.

“In many cases, a victim’s losses may include not only out-of-pocket financial losses, but substantial additional financial costs associated with trying to restore his reputation in the community and correcting erroneous information for which the criminal is responsible.

“In one notorious case of identity theft, the criminal, a convicted felon, not only incurred more than $100,000 of credit card debt, obtained a federal home loan, and bought homes, motorcycles, and handguns in the victim’s name, but called his victim to taunt him — saying that he could continue to pose as the victim for as long as he wanted because identity theft was not a federal crime at that time — before filing for bankruptcy, also in the victim’s name. While the victim and his wife spent more than four years and more than $15,000 of their own money to restore their credit and reputation, the criminal served a brief sentence for making a false statement to procure a firearm, but made no restitution to his victim for any of the harm he had caused. This case, and others like it, prompted Congress in 1998 to create a new federal offense of identity theft.

Poe’s pattern of deception noted
Noticeable is the showing of Poe’s pattern of deception, which can be seen not only in her use of a dead person’s identity, but also in many other official documents she had submitted before the Commission on Elections (Comelec) and the Senate Electoral Tribunal (SET).

It will be recalled that Poe had submitted at least two birth certificates, a document given to the Bureau of Immigration (BI) when she applied for dual citizenship status stating that she was born to spouses Ronald Allen Poe (a.k.a Fernando Poe Jr.) and Jesusa Sonora (Susan Roces) claiming that she is a natural born  Filipino, which the BI requires of a Filipino citizen who seeks dual citizenship.

Nowhere was there mentioned in that document that she is a foundling and adopted by the Poe couple.
Her adoption papers are also messy, as the court that granted the Poe couple the adoption of Grace Poe, was granted by a  municipal judge who had no jurisdiction over adoption cases.

Also, yet another show of deception was  noted when Grace Poe, in 2012, running for the Senate,  wrote down in the space for years of residency in the country in ger certificate of candidacy (CoC) for senator, “Six years and six months.”

However, with her eye on the presidency, in 2015, she again filed a CoC but this time, aware that she would lack the required residency, she  claimed to have resided in the Philippines for 10 years and 11  months, starting from on her arrival from the US using an American passport with a Balikbayan visa. At that time, in 2005. Poe was an naturalized American haing renounced and abjured absolutely her loyalty to the Philippines and its flag.

It was only in 2006 that she had applied for dual citizenship, which is said to her having used a questionable document stating that she is born to spouses Poe, which gave the impression that she is a natural born Filipino, even when she is a foundling with unknown parents. Grace Poe also failed to file a alien certificate of residency.
Poe claimed  before the Commission on Elections that she had committed an “honest mistake.”

There is doubt that she had committed an honest mistake in using a dead person’s SSN in the US, however.
Her disqualification case is up before the  Supreme Court for resolution.

In Angeles City, Sen. Francis “Chiz” Escudero yesterday assailed reports on the alleged draft Supreme Court resolution disqualifying his presidential running mate, Sen. Grace Poe, from the race saying that the floating of the purported impending High Court decision could only be aimed at conditioning the minds of the public.
It was not, however, a decision but a draft ponencia on allegedly her being disqualified on account of her lack of residency. There has been no decision as yet, although news reports say that the draft decision is being distributed among the SC justices, for either concurrence or dissent, in which case, if the numbers are for concurence, then SC Associate Justice Mariano del Castillo, the ponente, the decision will be to disqualify Poe. However, if the dissent to his ponencia has more than enough numbers, then another ponente gets to write the decision, with the ponencia of Justice del Castillo becomes the dissenting opinion.

Escudero, in a press conference, admitted that they were surprised to hear about the report, adding that they did not anticipate such scenario.

“What is probably a better question to ask is who brought this report out and how did he know about this. Who told him about this since it seems that it is only they who know about this result? From what I know, there is still no decision from the Supreme Court. Probably, the decision may be out by next week, not today or yesterday. Tell is who gave  this information since this is all gossip. They have no right to   come up with stories that are based on rumor,” he said.

He added: The way I see it, this was done to condition the minds of the voters. This probably came from the rivals of  Senator Grace.

“Maybe they want to counter the good news of the Nationalist People’s Coalition’s endorsement of the two of us (Poe and himself) which is why they even dreamed up this story of her disqualification.”

Even more questionable, the senator who is running as “independent” vice presidential candidate, is the apparent insinuation of the said report implying that the SC magistrates could likely be voting in favor of the said decision penned by Associate Justice Mariano del Castillo.

Poe, for her part, refused to be affected by the said report saying that she would want to the High Court to rule with finality the issues being thrown at her.

“Whatever will be the ruling, we’re confident (in our position). But we have been receiving conflicting claims. It’s difficult to believe (reports) based on hearsay,” she said.

Sen. Vicente Sotto III, who is seeking reelection under the senatorial ticket of Poe and Escudero, claimed he has been in receipt of an information on SC decision and was told that it’s favorable to Poe.

“I have my sources. And my sources said there’s already a draft report but a different ‘draft’ SC decision,” he said.
In the event, however, that the SC rules to dislodge Poe from the race, Sotto said it’s likely that the Nationalist People’s Coalition (NPC) will remain in its position.

“The party is not considering the scenario that Poe would not be qualified,” he said.

With Angie M. Rosales